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Testers’ ideas flow of the week: critical thinking, good QA managers and the cost of automating everything

What is going on in testing communities?

Every week, we collect the most active discussions in different communities about everything connected to software testing. 

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Briefly: here is what folks were talking about during the last week:

💡 Test results presentation – how to improve and make it more interesting?

💡 What makes a good QA manager?

💡 Why shouldn’t devs be managing QAs?

💡 QA and security? What security-related skills and knowledge QA should have?

💡 What lesson do you apply so often and wish to have discovered way earlier?

💡 Is it possible to learn logic and critical thinking? If so how?

💡 How else do devs test their apps, apart from Unit Testing?

💡 What do all terrible job performance review criteria have in common?

💡 If you run an automated test headless, can it still be considered a UI test?

💡 Do the managers who are saying “automate everything!” know what this is costing them?

As you can see, many things are going on, and many things are being discussed.

 

Let’s dive deeper into the most interesting opinions:

My investigation of testers’ ideas flow of the week started with a great quote shared in a r/computerscience community:

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The quote provoked a great discussion that included jokes, thoughts about how people call computer science in different countries (Informatics, Computing Science, Computation Science, Datalogy, Data Science…) and differences between “science of computer engineering” to “science of software engineering” 

>> check the discussion in a r/computerscience Reddit community. 

 

Here is my favorite post in this discussion (reminded me of my best teachers):

 

💬 Test results presentation – how to improve and make it more interesting?

Every end of the spirit our team (QA) presents the test results from our functional stories. However, the way my senior tester presents the results are sorta boring. She just does it by showing ms word file with steps + screenshot of the test results.

Is there a way I can make it more interesting? A PPT presentation perhaps?

Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you fellow QAs!

 

>> check the discussion in a r/softwaretesting Reddit community.

 

My favorite answer:

 

💬 What makes a good QA manager?

I’m being promoted to lead a QA team moving from the software development side. What are the things that make you not hate your manager, and what are the things that do make you hate them? Specifically about QA duties, I’ve been a manager before and I know what makes a good/bad manager in general but not in regards to QA.

Any one that can recommend some reading material on effective QA would be great too.

>> check the discussion in a r/QualityAssurance Reddit community. 

 

My favorite answer:

 

In this discussion, there was an interesting opinion that initiated a big thread with different views. There was written:

“No offence but devs should NOT be managing QAs”

>> check this thread here.

 

My favorite answer on the subject:

 

💬 QA and security? What security related skills and knowledge QA should have?

Lately I started thinking about QA role in security. For me security is inseparable part of quality, but there are few problems with that:

– QA already needs to have a wide range of skills, dropping security on top of that adds even more to already growing pile of expected skills and knowledge

– security is much more complicated and requires much more knowledge that most Devs or QA Engineers have

– many companies already have dedicated security teams that can perform internal and external audits

So what should be the role of QA in security? How much knowledge they should really have? Where do we draw the line (because QA is still QA, not a security specialist)? Should they be able to perform all “basic” security tests themselves and recognise when audit is necessary? Or should they just analyse what areas (from security perspective) should get extra care, what are possible risks and know general good practices?

What’s your look on this? Are there any books that treat topic of QA role in security or security for QA?

>> check the discussion in a r/QualityAssurance Reddit community. 

My favorite answer:

 

💬 What lesson do you apply so often and wish to have discovered way earlier?

>> check the discussion in a r/AskComputerScience Reddit community.

My favorite answer:

 

💬 Is it possible to learn logic and critical thinking If so how? What are some good resources you recommend?

>> check the discussion in a r/computerscience Reddit community.

 

My favorite answer:

I haven’t read this book yet, but I’ve watched Barabara Oakley’s fantastic course “Learning How To Learn” on Coursera. I’ve found many answers there about how to spend study time more productive and how to understand my mind better.

An interesting question was asked in the Reddit community for Android developers:

💬 How else do you test your apps, apart from Unit Testing?

Hello, I am very curious to see what technologies, frameworks, etc do you use to test your professional apps 🙂

>> check the discussion in a r/androiddev Reddit community.

My favorite answer:

 

Some interesting insights from software testing influencers:

Check discussion under the post here.

 

Check discussion under the post here.

 

Kelly Poe had raised an interesting question:

It was very insightful to read the answer of Greg Paskal:

Check discussion under the post here.

Right after reading Greg Paskal’s post about automated testing, I’ve updated the feed and saw one more deep post on the subject Michael Bolton shared on his page:

Check discussion under the post here.

 

So now you know what was going on in the software testing community last week. Follow the Software Testing Talks group on FB and r/softwaretestingtalks on Reddit to get testers’ ideas flow of every week directly to your feed.

 

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